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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://jakecpunut.com/2008/09/was-i-too-harsh-with-best-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, that&#039;s pretty funny!  Yeah if i had a little patience i would have had it shipped.. but MR impatient made the decision that i wanted it, so i HAD to have it that day, so a 45 minute drive to winston and dealing with those folks, when i could have just waited a couple of days and had it on my door step!

Live and learn!

Well i figured there was something behind all of it.. They tell you they don&#039;t work off commission and I guess they are telling the truth.. but the do get incentives! ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, that&#8217;s pretty funny!  Yeah if i had a little patience i would have had it shipped.. but MR impatient made the decision that i wanted it, so i HAD to have it that day, so a 45 minute drive to winston and dealing with those folks, when i could have just waited a couple of days and had it on my door step!</p>
<p>Live and learn!</p>
<p>Well i figured there was something behind all of it.. They tell you they don&#8217;t work off commission and I guess they are telling the truth.. but the do get incentives! ha</p>
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		<title>By: Mark - The Niche Store Builder</title>
		<link>http://jakecpunut.com/2008/09/was-i-too-harsh-with-best-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark - The Niche Store Builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jake - 

Believe me... HP pays WELL to have them push their brand!! HP was actually the first PC company to sell through best buy and other retail channels, so now that Gateway and Dell are taking that route... HP is getting hit in the sales dept.

I am sure the SA&#039;s (ASSociates) are getting a $10 spiff or something like that for every HP they sell, or talk a buyer into buying! LOL

I used to hold contests to drive higher margin products.. we had 4 triggers: Software, Training, Warranty and Financing. If a SA got all 4 on one sale... they got a $25 bonus per sale!!

I have not bought in a BB store in a long time for this very reason man... I buy from a Hadji shop locally when I need parts in a hurry, otherwise... its eBay for me!!

Kim and i got matching Dell lpatops last year, new, in the box on ebay, for $300 each. They were still in the orignal shipping boxes and shrink wrapped... probably stolen!! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jake &#8211; </p>
<p>Believe me&#8230; HP pays WELL to have them push their brand!! HP was actually the first PC company to sell through best buy and other retail channels, so now that Gateway and Dell are taking that route&#8230; HP is getting hit in the sales dept.</p>
<p>I am sure the SA&#8217;s (ASSociates) are getting a $10 spiff or something like that for every HP they sell, or talk a buyer into buying! LOL</p>
<p>I used to hold contests to drive higher margin products.. we had 4 triggers: Software, Training, Warranty and Financing. If a SA got all 4 on one sale&#8230; they got a $25 bonus per sale!!</p>
<p>I have not bought in a BB store in a long time for this very reason man&#8230; I buy from a Hadji shop locally when I need parts in a hurry, otherwise&#8230; its eBay for me!!</p>
<p>Kim and i got matching Dell lpatops last year, new, in the box on ebay, for $300 each. They were still in the orignal shipping boxes and shrink wrapped&#8230; probably stolen!! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://jakecpunut.com/2008/09/was-i-too-harsh-with-best-buy/comment-page-1/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Hello Mark, honor to have you drop by!

Well it&#039;s always good to hear the &quot;other side&quot; of the story ha!

I think a lot of my problem with our local BB is that I use to spend quite a bit of time in there back when I was building more computers back in the day... I always dreaded going because I knew what I was in for.  BUT, i can definitely see your point as I also know how the sales market world works (to some degree) Maybe I was just feeling cocky haha.

I do still wonder what kind of kick backs they are getting from Dell compared to the other brands.  It just seemed really odd that 2 of us had the same experience within a few days... not just trying to push software, but a completely different product!

I can understand the warranty too, although I normally don&#039;t get them, I can see where they are needed!

Online IS the way to go!  IMO  :)

Thanks for the comment!  Ya&#039;ll be sure to let us know if you ever come to any of the Yadkin Valley wine festivals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Hello Mark, honor to have you drop by!</p>
<p>Well it&#8217;s always good to hear the &#8220;other side&#8221; of the story ha!</p>
<p>I think a lot of my problem with our local BB is that I use to spend quite a bit of time in there back when I was building more computers back in the day&#8230; I always dreaded going because I knew what I was in for.  BUT, i can definitely see your point as I also know how the sales market world works (to some degree) Maybe I was just feeling cocky haha.</p>
<p>I do still wonder what kind of kick backs they are getting from Dell compared to the other brands.  It just seemed really odd that 2 of us had the same experience within a few days&#8230; not just trying to push software, but a completely different product!</p>
<p>I can understand the warranty too, although I normally don&#8217;t get them, I can see where they are needed!</p>
<p>Online IS the way to go!  IMO  <img src='http://jakecpunut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!  Ya&#8217;ll be sure to let us know if you ever come to any of the Yadkin Valley wine festivals!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark - The Niche Store Builder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark - The Niche Store Builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - Talk about pressure!! Believe it or not, there was probably a manager sitting in the background keeping score! I know... I used to! LOL 

Since I used to manage a Gateway Computer store - I am going to represent the defendants here for just one second. :-)

I used to get phone calls from Customers complaining that the PC didnt have this program or that optical drive on it, and they didnt know how to do this or that. My reply was always... (After apologizing of course) Did your sales associate mention it to you in the store? Well... yes, they told me it didn&#039;t come with MS Office, but I didnt think it meant I didnt get Word or Excel! Office is only for business right?

Its one of those double-edged swords from a sales perspective. If you offer it and they dont need it, thats one thing... but when they DONT offer it, people get mad when they find out it was not included.

Ultimately, we had a checklist we went over with every customer, to the point that I made them get the customer to sign a waiver of warranty extensions. &quot;I agree that I do not want the extended warranty, and acknoledge my warranty expires after 12 months of the date of purchase&quot;. Out of warranty repairs accounted for 16% of our store operating cost before the form went into action. I actually had a Pastor come in and chew me out at one time because his 2 year old PC lost a hard drive, after his 1 year warranty ran out. I am like you though and hate the sales process just as much... the only 1 thing I buy with anything though... usually a warranty extension.

From a managers point - we hammered the sales staff to help the customer as much as possible, and yes, sell them as much as possible, so they had everything they needed on the first visit. 

We also had what they called &quot;Secret Shoppers&quot;. They were people the corporate office would send in to see if the troops were following company policies. Often, there were 4-5 company incentives going on at any given time (Ex: Geek squad, Training classes, Software, Warranty, Financing) and if the sales people got a shopper and did not mention it to the buyer, they only had 3 chances to get it right before they were dismissed!! LOL

I know its a crappy thing the way they hardball you... but in their defense, they were just doing their job!

BTW - I am the SAME WAY when I go in! Give me stuff and let me go already!! LOL I think thats why I buy online 99% of the time! BTW - Congrats ont he Dell!! They make great stuff!

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; Talk about pressure!! Believe it or not, there was probably a manager sitting in the background keeping score! I know&#8230; I used to! LOL </p>
<p>Since I used to manage a Gateway Computer store &#8211; I am going to represent the defendants here for just one second. <img src='http://jakecpunut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I used to get phone calls from Customers complaining that the PC didnt have this program or that optical drive on it, and they didnt know how to do this or that. My reply was always&#8230; (After apologizing of course) Did your sales associate mention it to you in the store? Well&#8230; yes, they told me it didn&#8217;t come with MS Office, but I didnt think it meant I didnt get Word or Excel! Office is only for business right?</p>
<p>Its one of those double-edged swords from a sales perspective. If you offer it and they dont need it, thats one thing&#8230; but when they DONT offer it, people get mad when they find out it was not included.</p>
<p>Ultimately, we had a checklist we went over with every customer, to the point that I made them get the customer to sign a waiver of warranty extensions. &#8220;I agree that I do not want the extended warranty, and acknoledge my warranty expires after 12 months of the date of purchase&#8221;. Out of warranty repairs accounted for 16% of our store operating cost before the form went into action. I actually had a Pastor come in and chew me out at one time because his 2 year old PC lost a hard drive, after his 1 year warranty ran out. I am like you though and hate the sales process just as much&#8230; the only 1 thing I buy with anything though&#8230; usually a warranty extension.</p>
<p>From a managers point &#8211; we hammered the sales staff to help the customer as much as possible, and yes, sell them as much as possible, so they had everything they needed on the first visit. </p>
<p>We also had what they called &#8220;Secret Shoppers&#8221;. They were people the corporate office would send in to see if the troops were following company policies. Often, there were 4-5 company incentives going on at any given time (Ex: Geek squad, Training classes, Software, Warranty, Financing) and if the sales people got a shopper and did not mention it to the buyer, they only had 3 chances to get it right before they were dismissed!! LOL</p>
<p>I know its a crappy thing the way they hardball you&#8230; but in their defense, they were just doing their job!</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I am the SAME WAY when I go in! Give me stuff and let me go already!! LOL I think thats why I buy online 99% of the time! BTW &#8211; Congrats ont he Dell!! They make great stuff!</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah really.. well.. i usually just let things roll off my back haha.. but for some reason it really got under my skin..  i think if i can get a few moments to sit and write it out, i&#039;m gonna take Beth&#039;s suggestion and email Dell and let them know how our local BB is downing their product!  I might as well stir up a stink hahaha

Some times warranty&#039;s are good, like if you&#039;re buying one for your &quot;daughter&quot; and you know she&#039;s probably gonna &quot;tear&quot; it up! (Ash) :P  But most of the time, the factory warranty is good enough for most electronics (IN MY OPINION)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah really.. well.. i usually just let things roll off my back haha.. but for some reason it really got under my skin..  i think if i can get a few moments to sit and write it out, i&#8217;m gonna take Beth&#8217;s suggestion and email Dell and let them know how our local BB is downing their product!  I might as well stir up a stink hahaha</p>
<p>Some times warranty&#8217;s are good, like if you&#8217;re buying one for your &#8220;daughter&#8221; and you know she&#8217;s probably gonna &#8220;tear&#8221; it up! (Ash) <img src='http://jakecpunut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   But most of the time, the factory warranty is good enough for most electronics (IN MY OPINION)</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told Misty last night that I dindn&#039;t think you were too harsh with Best Buy.  I can&#039;t stand going into a store and a sales person talking down to you and trying to sell you a better product (supposedly better for their pockets, I would say) or trying to sell you some bogus extended warrenty.  I think that a majority of the people have researched and have some sort of idea as to what they want when they come into a store and they don&#039;t need some minimum wage earner who probably doesn&#039;t have a clue trying to sell them something they don&#039;t want.
(Love the ASSociate snip, sometimes so true!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told Misty last night that I dindn&#8217;t think you were too harsh with Best Buy.  I can&#8217;t stand going into a store and a sales person talking down to you and trying to sell you a better product (supposedly better for their pockets, I would say) or trying to sell you some bogus extended warrenty.  I think that a majority of the people have researched and have some sort of idea as to what they want when they come into a store and they don&#8217;t need some minimum wage earner who probably doesn&#8217;t have a clue trying to sell them something they don&#8217;t want.<br />
(Love the ASSociate snip, sometimes so true!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Bethie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sure you&#039;d get a better response from Dell if you let them know that one of their retailers are bad-mouthing their product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d get a better response from Dell if you let them know that one of their retailers are bad-mouthing their product.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, i didn&#039;t even talk about what happened to my friend at work when he went.  The Best Buy ASSociate told him, that he wouldn&#039;t buy a Dell, that they wouldn&#039;t last and basically told him he would never own one.  He told him he need to get the HP.  Which was of course 80 bucks more..... Anyway, glad to hear i&#039;m not the only one that has dealt with that crap down there.  I&#039;m on the verge of writing them an email, asking them why they are selling Dell products since they are turning their customers away from them and bad mouthing the Dell products they are selling.  Wonder what kind of response i would get?  HA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i didn&#8217;t even talk about what happened to my friend at work when he went.  The Best Buy ASSociate told him, that he wouldn&#8217;t buy a Dell, that they wouldn&#8217;t last and basically told him he would never own one.  He told him he need to get the HP.  Which was of course 80 bucks more&#8230;.. Anyway, glad to hear i&#8217;m not the only one that has dealt with that crap down there.  I&#8217;m on the verge of writing them an email, asking them why they are selling Dell products since they are turning their customers away from them and bad mouthing the Dell products they are selling.  Wonder what kind of response i would get?  HA!</p>
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		<title>By: Bethie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They deserved it.  My supervisor had a similar experience there and has vowed not to go back (at least to the WS store).  Way to stand up and let them know that there are people out there that know more than they do about computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They deserved it.  My supervisor had a similar experience there and has vowed not to go back (at least to the WS store).  Way to stand up and let them know that there are people out there that know more than they do about computers.</p>
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